A commentator wonders why pro-choice men aren’t as numerous or as vocal as their pro-life counterparts. But the answer is so simple that only a pro-choice pundit could miss it.
By Selwyn Duke
Sometimes you just have to be thankful for your enemies. Case in point: The maelstrom surrounding the pro-life Super Bowl ad starring Florida Gators quarterback Tim Tebow. I’m sure the spot would have been very effective in and of itself, but the discussion its opponents have sparked is something money just can’t buy. Thanks to them, we’re again talking about abortion. And every time we do, pro-lifers win converts.
This has caused much consternation within the abortion lobby, and a good example is pundit Hugh Ryan at The Daily Beast. In a column titled “The Problem With [sic] Pro-Choice Men,” he notes that men are abandoning the pro-abortion position and that those who do support the cause are seldom too vocal about it. They just cannot match the passion of a Mel Gibson, Ben Stein, Jonathan Taylor Thomas, Stephen Baldwin or Kirk Cameron, he laments.
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Once again, Selwyn Duke hits it out of the park with his poignant article.
As with all things Left, the term “pro-choice” is an abject lie because it deliberately overlooks the myriad of choices with regard to pregnancy and reproduction.
Is not abstinence a choice? Are not contraceptives (and within this subset, are their not a myriad of “choices”)? Is not the keeping of the vital fetus through to childbirth a choice? Adoption, is this not also a choice?
The leftist fascists who approve of and promote this infanticide are evil ghouls. They are NOT pro-choice. They are pro-infanticide. Pro-MURDER. There is no known higher life-from than a human being and these evil ghouls and vampires call the extermination of this life “choice”? UP YOURS!
I remind you of the origins of Planned Parenthood and the abortion movement: This was the brainlesschild of a filthy, wicked and ugly hag named Margaret Sanger. While I acknowledge that she was not an advocate of abortion, per se, she was a stone-hearted racist and eugenicist hell-bent on ridding the world of “imbeciles”, “defectives” and those she determined to be genetically inferior (meaning blacks).
Those who blindly and emotionally support such hideous practices, you are hereby admonished. Those that understand all of these factors and still support this murderous and malicious practice, go to hell.
Posted by: Philip France | February 09, 2010 at 10:39 PM
You are right on Philip. Margaret Sanger was a beast with no less evil in her heart then Hitler. The only real difference between the two is, Hitler got to fulfill his dreams and Margaret just talked about hers. Margaret is not the only monster the left gives god like reverence to. They love Lenin, Mao, Guevara, Malcolm X and Noam Chomsky, fully excusing their horrid acts and precepts. The afore mentioned do not take an ideological back seat to Hitler. As a matter of fact besides the whole Holocaust thing Hitler probably executed more acts of leftist idealism then the others combined. Why not excuse the millions he killed? His ends were the leftist ideal, why not excuse his means like the others? Seems like a double standard.
Great article Selwyn
Posted by: Walt | February 10, 2010 at 09:38 AM
Look boys, sanger had the personal experience of watching women bleeding to death and the more common experience of watching women starving and benighted after their moralistic brutal fathers and mothers too let them and their offspring suffer following their being cast out into a brutal world with no support structures for these "holy" fetus's. Yes Tims T's mother can make an emotive ad about the joy she has with her son surving, the majority of equivalent mothers cant - they died. They cant speak about their children left motherless, their husbands left widows, they died. Placent abrupta and its fellows are murderous conditions, by your happy celbration supporting the anti medical approach to this condition, you make me think you are also supporting the continuation of ectopic pregancy, hell we are only talking of an 80+% death rate. Boys I'm very sorry but when you side on the anti choice side you are of neccessity siding with the death of adult women. that may be ok under your theology just be honest that you feel a 8 week fetus has more value than a mother of 3.
Posted by: yoyo | February 11, 2010 at 12:07 AM
PS: despite Jonahs stupidity, a dictator who went against unions first, hated immigrants, was pro military and rabidly religious is not of the left. The whole hitler was left wing meme has been discredited sooo many times it just makes it's sponsers look stupid. Now stalin and lenin were of the left and hideous killing machines both. If we can claim our demons have the grace to claim yours.
Posted by: yoyo | February 11, 2010 at 12:14 AM
There you go again yoyo. Just like about every left argument, you take a very extreme example (tubal pregnancies) and assume it as the baseline. The truth is less then 3% (a smaller percent represented by eggtopic) of the abortions performed are done so in the interest of the health of the mother. In the case of life and death I believe it should be the mother’s choice. The other 97% are murders of convenience. If I concede the 3% will you concede the 97%? Attached is a statistical analysis of reasons women give for having abortions.
http://www.uky.edu/Classes/PHI/305.002/abrt.htm
Posted by: Walt | February 11, 2010 at 09:26 AM
yoyo, do you reallllly want to take this one on?
yoyo said, "The whole hitler was left wing meme has been discredited sooo many times it just makes it's sponsers look stupid."
If so I am game. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a freakin' duck; even if your professor tells you it is an elephant.
I'm game if you are.
Posted by: Walt | February 11, 2010 at 09:34 AM
Right on Walt. You are so correct.
There is also recent news of facts that have been criminally concealed by media-Leftists with the staggering correlation between women who have unergone abortions and breast cancer. The results are disturbing and alarming.
I am so very disappointed at Yoyo, who professes to be a mother, that she would defend such a hideous, murderous and evil practice with the utterly weakest and sophistic of arguments. Shame on you, Yoyo. You experienced the miracle of human procreation and birth. How can you POSSIBLY discard your natural experience and exchange it for a Leftist lie that had its origins in eugenics and population control? Were you born of such "blue-blood" and "elitist" stock that you can arbitrarily determine that certain of our species are less worthy of life than others?
You have no defense for such a position. This is evil and discriminatory. It is bigotry of the worst order. It is MURDER. A human heartbeat can be detected in a fetus a mere 18 HOURS AFTER CONCEPTION!!!!!
Think with your brain. Do not go along with the culturally-popular group think. See things how you know them to be, rather than how they seem or how the chattering classes want you to see them.
Yoyo, if we are to believe your previous posts, you have (at least) two daughters. Can you not look at them and acknowledge for all of us that their lives are a precious miracle and not an accident of science? Can you will for them future scrutiny whereby the temperatures on their theromostats be predetermined by government buracrats? Can you wish for them for a bloated government to determine how many children they might have, and, consequently, how many grandchildren you might bounce on your knee?
By your arguments and your inexcusable defense of the indefensible, this is what you are asking for.
To all of the rest of Selwyn's readers:
The matter of what delusional Americans and others refer to as "reproductive rights" and (worse yet) "choice" in reality amounts to population control, murder and infanticide.
You decide as to whether to support the Leftist position promoting the verdict of death for the most innocent of human life or to vehemently oppose this radical, murderous stain on our body politic.
I choose life for all.
Posted by: Philip France | February 11, 2010 at 10:07 PM
Phil, phil, lets get rid of a few emotive strawmen shall we? If we take your ultra fundamentalist position that every conception is a human being then why are you not holding full funerals for the 70% of conceptions that fall to ,iscarriage in the days and weeks after?
As a woman I have had more than a few of these, as all women have, but there is also a huge difference between that and a much hoped for potential child that died at 20 weeks. If you cant see the difference I despair.
I generally refuse to debate abortion with fundamentalist males because it is like me debating Iranian rebellian tactics with a real victim of the regime. For me to do so shows very little respect.
This started with an issue about a footballer and his mother who was alive against all odds. So walt my dear I am not being disengeious in talking about the dire outcomes of pregnancies gone wrong, this is your playing field. For the anti choice mob to make a poster boy of the rare child that survives such a dangerous condition there are 8 mothers and more than 12 potential children that are voiceless due to a bloody death during childbirth.
If an interventionist god cares so much for the early products of conception, why does he let so many die "naturally"? PS and what's with the weird catholic theology that these "kids" go to limbo? Or has that recently been thrown out with the bathwater?
Yes I personally have 2 beautiful children, however, if some theocrat tried to convice them that their life was less valuable, than a six cell, six week or even 4 months fetus, I would be beyond fury. I cant argue battle field decisions because I will never be putting my life on the line in that regard, your antichoice males should not be arguing pregnancy decisions because they will never be risking their health or life in this way. Stay out of the maternity battle until you can share the risks.
However sweet phil if your god imrpoves the hideous maternal death rate of women in developing countries then it might change my position.
Posted by: yoyo | February 14, 2010 at 12:18 AM
PS excuse my spelling mistakes it's been an extreme travelling week.
Posted by: yoyo | February 14, 2010 at 12:20 AM
yoyo sais, "Yes I personally have 2 beautiful children, however, if some theocrat tried to convice them that their life was less valuable, than a six cell, six week or even 4 months fetus, I would be beyond fury."
This is not an either or issue. I would never tell you an unborn child had more value then your child, nor would any other "theocrat." The comparison is irrelevant. We contend each child has a value and a right to keep its life. Just think, your children are alive because you were in the right mood...boy are they lucky you didn't have a bad hair day.
Posted by: Walt | February 14, 2010 at 10:11 AM
I just got to say that I'm happy for the pro-life guys
We need more actors like them I do know Jonathan taylor Thomas
is very conservative that's why he's not getting work in Hollywood. I also heard that
he's leaving the Hollywood scene to prosue to become a history teacher. Good for him.
Posted by: Kevin | November 20, 2012 at 01:56 AM